
In 2004 he joined the Physical Education course in order to increase knowledge, combining the theories of physical education to the basics of Capoeira improving the content of their classes. In 2005 he began working with deaf people in Project Life (Derdic – PUC). In 2007 he was invited by Professor Denise Serio to go to the University Gama Filho in the postgraduate course in adapted physical education to speak about their experiences with deaf people and share his work with the adapted physical education students that helped to develop Project Life.